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Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
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Posted - 2012.08.22 07:30:00 -
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Quote:Breacher:
Frigate skill bonuses:
5% Bonus to Missile damage per level
7.5% Bonus to Shield boost amount per level
Slot layout: 3 H (-1), 4 M (+2), 3 L (+1), 3 launchers, 0 Turrets (-1)
Fittings: 35 PWG (+4), 180 CPU (+45)
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 500(+149) / 350(+37) / 300 (+50)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 300 (+112.5)/ 150s (+9.37s)/ 2 (+0.667)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 350 (+16) / 3.16 (-0.62) / 1087000 (-100000) / 3.21s (-0.99)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 10 (+10) / 10 (+10)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 35km (+2.5) / 650 (+75) / 4 (+1)
Sensor strength: 8 Ladar
Signature radius: 36 (-5)
Cargo capacity: 175
Ermmm.... that is completely crazy. 7.5% shield boost amount per level?! And weapons which won-Št need any cap? That thing will tank with ancillary shield boosters better than any Incursus with active armor tank. Probably twice that good. That is completely crazy.
5% would be much (probably too much) BUT 7.5%????? How the hell you will kill this in a frig?
NOOOOOOOOOOO..... epic fail.
AND 4 mid slots???? Ancillary shield booster and shield boost ampiflier and you can park this thing in front of a destroyer and go afk. NOOOOOO! I hope this is a joke. |
Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.09.01 16:58:00 -
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STILL:
Breacher is tooooooooooooo overpowered. 3/4 missile firepower of a Kestrel PLUS two drones equals more or the same firepower of a Kestrel PLUS ancillary shield booster and shield boost bonus = KILLS EVERYTHING.
That cannot really be serious!!!!!
I suppose CCP had too many whining minnes about the Rifter and now there is the breacher who will replace the old superior Rifter. Breacher is faster than the Kestrel and Tristan, it has more or equal firepower, more cargo and an active tank with ancillary shield booster (plus shield boost amplifier) that will be better than any incursus or vengeance on dope.
WHERE THE HELL IS THIS BALANCE????????
Another joke: any tormentor fit possible that the tormentor doesnt suck in comparison to these three ships???? No? Oh I forgot it is an amarr ship. It has to suck. |
Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.09.02 07:31:00 -
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I have some experience that CCP made a stealth buff on all active shield tanked ships with the ancillary shield booster.
That means: CCP stealth buffed minmatar ships.
The Cyclone actually is the best and most effective bc of all and eats any other bc for beakfast. I can even imagine that a x-large ancillary shield boost cyclone can eat two drakes at once because they can-Št break his tank.
I remember that we engaged a lonely cyclone with a smaller fleet of probably four destroyers and some cruisers (3 or 4) and couldn-Št get that thing down. We tried for maybe three minutes without any chance to break his tank and then got killed by an incoming sfi fleet. Actually the ancillary shield booster makes the cyclone a over the top killer machine. A good fitted cyclone can active tank over 1300 ehp/s and still do some 460dps without needing cap for guns. There are battleships which won-Št get that thing down and get killed....
Wonder that nobody is whining about that.
Now imagine what a breacher can do then with this bonus. It will eat cruisers? |
Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.09.04 14:25:00 -
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Quote:well nobody is whining over the dual x-large asb rohk. which is your proposed uber-cyclone on steroids.
how did you engage those cyclones? passive/buffer heavy missile drake?
and the breacher will do nothing like that because any cruiser with a web and em/therm damage profile will rofl stomp it to hell.
Well I killed a maelstrom some minutes ago in a fleet with 4 cynabals, 2 vagabonds, one omen and eight frigates. Maelstrom was xasb tanked. It took more than 5 minutes (!!!!!!) with this fleet to get that thing down.
YES Breacher will eat cruisers for breakfast. |
Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.09.12 06:32:00 -
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Quote:So the kestrel gets a range bonus yet is slower and less agile than the Breacher, which also gets a range bonus + a tank bonus + higher mobility?
How does that make sense? Light missiles with 40km range isn't going to give it more survivability or any sort of advantage over short range frigates that can easily overcome it and out-tank it.
Once again this would make minmatar unbalanced while shoehorning caldari into a non-pvp role.
It would be more balanced if the Breacher was slower due to the beefy tank or if the Kestrel had 3 low slots and the Breacher had 2, allowing the Kestrel to fit a nano to compensate for it's lack of mobility and be in harmony with it's bonuses.
You are completely right.
But don-Št forget: Who gets a completely new stabber and vagabond model? Who got a stealth uber buff with asb? Who has the best Tech1 destroyer, cruiser, battlecruiser and with asb now also battleship in the game? Who had the monopol on the best tech1 frig in the game for years (Rifter)? Who has the most overpowered pirate frigs like dram?
Winmatar.
It is always the same. Probably minnies were winning about the fact that they hadnt the only one T1 frig in the game, CCP feared about our spoiled minnie players and now they get this breacher stuff. I had to laugh in the last dev blog that not only the other cruisers but also rupture should get a buff. ROFL. The best Tech1 cruiser in game gets a buff. Wow.
Well you are completely right: Kestrel looks like a complete loser against the Breacher. Let us not talk about the Tormentor... That is a total epic fail. But look only at the dram: CCP wants it so. Minnies always had the best ships (lets not talk about their weapons) and it will be so forever until the whole universe is flying minnie ship only. If I were you I would start training for minmatar frigate. CCP WANTS this frigate to be overpowered.
So: working as intended |
Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.09.14 14:49:00 -
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Well. CCPs argument for shooting away dmg bonus for kinetic on the Kestrel: It can choose dmg types then and does all dmg types same good.
Super.
With this argumentation: Minmatar can also use all damage types with the same effiency. Shouldn-Št CCP then decrease dmg on Minmatar ships?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.09.24 05:47:00 -
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I really hoped winmatar wouldn-Št be winmatar any more after the rebalance but it doesn-Št seem so.
Minmatar should be more about guerilla. Fast, hard hitting and fragile ships.
What do we get instead? The race with the fastest ships, by far best weapon systems (ac need no cap plus dmg type choosing, even artillery will be soon far better than HM, especially with THIS alpha) and best active tanking.
Additionally: Active tanking with shields means they dont-Št loose any speed.
Okay what don-Št Minmatar have? They have everything.
Instead I would decrease the Minmatar ship tank really instead giving them the same tank like the other ships or at least decrease their resistances more. Minmatar ships already have speed like hell and CCP completely underestimates this factor.
There is some reason that drake is breakfast for drams and daredevils....
And what Gallente would really need: Decrease the speed penalty of armor active tank rigs.
Incursus which needs speed because of blasters and has active armor tanking needs to decrease his speed for better active armor tanking.
Minmatar which already have crazy speed don-Št need to do this and have additionaly the better weapon system which additionally doesn-Št even need cap in comparison to blasters.
Now let us compare Incursus and the new Breacher:
Tank given from the hulls is the same. Breacher is faster, shield tanking in comparison to Incursus doesn-Št make him slower, the weapons need no cap and it can choose damage. Plus Breacher has one drone more.
PLUS: Has anybody considered what a punch a rocket beacher has? I have killed Dagan some weeks ago with another toon with a T2 rocket Kestrel and he was only cannon fodder. The breacher with the second drone even has the same firepower at more range than an incursus.
So where the hell is THIS balance?????
Incursus is a lot slower, everybody knows that active shield tanking is better than acive armor tanking, incursus needs cap for weapons, breacher not and breacher has the same dmg with much more range plus damage type choosing.
Do you want a new Rifter?????
Minmatar really need a nerf. And that new Breacher is FAR better than any incursus which was really good atm.
P.s After the HM nerf I would like to have artillery with dmg bonus on the drake. Then even Minmatar have the best long range weapon. Rofl. That is not rebalance. That is comedy. |
Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.09.24 21:15:00 -
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Quote:here we go again...
i begin to wonder what you could possibly want from the changes. minmatar ships so bad, nobody wants to fly them anymore?
Well Minmatar do not know that but actually other races haven-Št that op ships so that there is a ton off ships other races don-Št use....
Ever tried to build something like a range Harbinger that can be equal with an arty cane? Well try it and have fun with frustration.
We engaed an arty cane fleet some days ago. Of course we jumped there and there until we engaged them at gate because at range we would be annon fodder.
Well. Cane is faster than even amarr and most caldari cruisers so wemanaged to kill one or two until they were at optimal range and away from us and as always we had to chicken out.
Actually there is almost anything to engage an arty cane or nano arty sfi. Drakes are okay here. But even drakes have probs with 3200m/s sfi.
Interceptors are dying like flies before they get close, sfi are burning with 3200 or even 3500m/s away to alpha us and so on.
The combination of awesome speed plus awesome range plus awesome alpha plus close range damage where railguns only can dream of hitting anything is tooooo much. Really.
Quote:btw; you did note the 4th launcher on the kestrel the breacher is missing? this means the kestrel has more rocket power. if you count in the second light drone (which only makes sense when brawling, makes no sense when kiting and using light missiles) breacher will at max have the same output as the kestrel. you also need good skills in missiles and drones.
That is it. Breacher has as Brawler almost kestrel firepower but is alot more fast and has better tank. Okay super it has less range. I did not compare the breacher directly with Kestrel. I compared it directly to incursus.
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Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.10.01 05:22:00 -
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I think you are wrong. I still see Rifters and they are still really good ships. But atm everybody is flying kitey attack ships. No wonder. Most people have flown the Rifter for years because it was the one and only non faction T1 frig and I really do not wonder that they want to fly something else now. Rifter is still a very good ship with really good tank and awesome firepower. |
Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.10.01 08:41:00 -
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Quote:For what purpose would you pick a rifter over another frigate right now?
Well if you really think it is soooo bad then try the punisher. Rolf. That is total fail. Rifter still has a really good punch and has even tanking abilities that slicers haven-Št the cap to kill them. |
Dr Sheng-Ji Yang
The Forsworn Protectorate
Imperial Protectorate
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Posted - 2012.10.01 09:06:00 -
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Killing a Rifter with rat support in a slicer is always a cap issue. And yes my cap skills are good. |
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